A really good TPM today. I continue to imagine the regime is bugging down in ineptitude, backlash and internal infighting, but the EOs continue to issue forth and the insane directives, like the one to Barnard, continue to fly out in all directions.
I’m inclined to think that maybe our beloved Fuhrer’s people are maybe willing to get Kilmer returned in order to avoid down the line a ruling from SCOTUS that these deportations require at least an appearance of minimal due process which would complicate a lot of this. I’m certain til disproven that there are at least five votes on the Roberts court for maintaining that appearance. Taking citizens off the street without and without any possibility of due process is maybe a bridge too far.
One freedom for one in order to keep the series of abuses in other institutions free to continue.
The Radley Balko link is very provoking. It reminds me of events of 55 years ago, phone tapping, and intimidations by the then Nixon administration. Do we all need to wear our own recording devices?
In relation to these cases, we need to be concerned about Vance's and Miller's attacks on due process.
Also, I realize there is a lot going on, but I'm worried that the attacks on climate science, on NOAAA, on the energy department aren't getting enough attention. According to some experts, we are already losing our supremacy in science and technological advancement, and we don't have the luxury of waiting to address the 2.7 degrees we could face by the end of the century. I won't live to see it, but my grandchildren will.
Uh, did the EEOC send out emails asking whether the Barnard employees were Muslim, with the same questions about discrimination? How about asking if they are of Irish heritage--heard any drunk jokes? Or Italian, ever heard a Mafia Joke? Or Polish? Lord help you, the jokes, the slurs.
Basically, the EEOC is conducting an investigation in violation of the anti-discrimination laws.
Always enjoy my daily Ed Martin fix, the gift that keeps on giving. Also, DOJ Civil Rights Division should be rebadged as Civil Wrongs, as nothing is going "right" for civil rights, but a lot going "wrong".
Woody Harrelson (who was FAMOUS) was very invested in minimizing his father's "time away" here in the US, and that went nowhere. I want to see all of those guys returned, not just the one.
They were ALL screwed over, just like HE was. Where's the outrage and outcry for them?
I want them all, too. But that case is not about “all of them” and so the judge can’t order anything about them. Remember that Kilmar’s case is DIFFERENT from the Tren de Aragua renditioned. He was a plain old “Article 8” deportation based on a long ago deportation order that was SUPERSEDED by a later immigration court order.
One planeload was apparently Article 8 folks. To the extent they were subject to a deportation order already, they can probably be deported—just not to a prison
The other two planes were TdA accusees. The judge in Colorado yesterday finally held that the entire use of the AEA is wrongful—at LAST that question is going to face the Extremes. I hope she orders that Rubio’s agreement be rescinded as to the AEA renditioned, and the US has to take steps to get its money back and not pay any more.
Both TdA and Kilmar lacked due process, but for different reasons. The first, no chance to show they weren’t TdA—a requirement to even an attempt to use the AEA. For Kilmar, it was because he was not given a chance to contest any reversal of his protected status (in fact, none was even attempted). The arguments are, in his case: “Govt—he’s a member of Ms-13 and that’s terrorist and we can use that.” Kilmar—I am not, I’m not dangerous, and the gang that threatened me is not totally eradicated. (And possibly—by now MS-13 will be after me, too, if they have taken over the other gang’s territory).
The govt may be deciding to bring Kilmar home—of course they can do it, trump is a dealmaker, right?—because HIS case also brings up the idea of imprisoning someone without a US conviction. So far there hasn’t been much stress on this. But if the govt keeps being stubborn it may well come up, and THAT would skewer using CECOT for much of anything. Kilmar could still be deported if his protected status is reversed, but NOT sent to jail. At which point he could get on a plane, right there at the airport, to wherever would take it. A lot of countries would likely want to do an “up yours” and grant him asylum. China maybe?
without a court order, yes. If they DO go through Article 8 courts, it’s deportation. We don’t know who on plane 3 was in that category. But it turns out to be rendition if to a prison with no conviction.
Apparently Rwanda is taking deportees and NOT putting them in prison. They’re getting funds to house them. Time shall tell whether the house has locks.
A really good TPM today. I continue to imagine the regime is bugging down in ineptitude, backlash and internal infighting, but the EOs continue to issue forth and the insane directives, like the one to Barnard, continue to fly out in all directions.
I’m inclined to think that maybe our beloved Fuhrer’s people are maybe willing to get Kilmer returned in order to avoid down the line a ruling from SCOTUS that these deportations require at least an appearance of minimal due process which would complicate a lot of this. I’m certain til disproven that there are at least five votes on the Roberts court for maintaining that appearance. Taking citizens off the street without and without any possibility of due process is maybe a bridge too far.
One freedom for one in order to keep the series of abuses in other institutions free to continue.
The Radley Balko link is very provoking. It reminds me of events of 55 years ago, phone tapping, and intimidations by the then Nixon administration. Do we all need to wear our own recording devices?
Balko is one of my fav writers, and it's too bad his missives only appear infrequently.
In relation to these cases, we need to be concerned about Vance's and Miller's attacks on due process.
Also, I realize there is a lot going on, but I'm worried that the attacks on climate science, on NOAAA, on the energy department aren't getting enough attention. According to some experts, we are already losing our supremacy in science and technological advancement, and we don't have the luxury of waiting to address the 2.7 degrees we could face by the end of the century. I won't live to see it, but my grandchildren will.
Uh, did the EEOC send out emails asking whether the Barnard employees were Muslim, with the same questions about discrimination? How about asking if they are of Irish heritage--heard any drunk jokes? Or Italian, ever heard a Mafia Joke? Or Polish? Lord help you, the jokes, the slurs.
Basically, the EEOC is conducting an investigation in violation of the anti-discrimination laws.
Always enjoy my daily Ed Martin fix, the gift that keeps on giving. Also, DOJ Civil Rights Division should be rebadged as Civil Wrongs, as nothing is going "right" for civil rights, but a lot going "wrong".
A bunch of fucking bullshit.
They try to make it look like there's progress going on in the Garcia/El Salvador case, but it's a stay of another week or more.
Meaning, HE'S STILL ILLEGALLY IN A GULAG IN EL SALVADOR AND WILL STAY THERE AS LONG AS TRUMP CAN LIE AND STALL, and these guys fell for it. Again.
I'm not so sure. Plaintiff's lawyers, which include his wife, seem convinced. They would seem to be pretty invested in minimizing time away.
Woody Harrelson (who was FAMOUS) was very invested in minimizing his father's "time away" here in the US, and that went nowhere. I want to see all of those guys returned, not just the one.
They were ALL screwed over, just like HE was. Where's the outrage and outcry for them?
I want them all, too. But that case is not about “all of them” and so the judge can’t order anything about them. Remember that Kilmar’s case is DIFFERENT from the Tren de Aragua renditioned. He was a plain old “Article 8” deportation based on a long ago deportation order that was SUPERSEDED by a later immigration court order.
One planeload was apparently Article 8 folks. To the extent they were subject to a deportation order already, they can probably be deported—just not to a prison
The other two planes were TdA accusees. The judge in Colorado yesterday finally held that the entire use of the AEA is wrongful—at LAST that question is going to face the Extremes. I hope she orders that Rubio’s agreement be rescinded as to the AEA renditioned, and the US has to take steps to get its money back and not pay any more.
Both TdA and Kilmar lacked due process, but for different reasons. The first, no chance to show they weren’t TdA—a requirement to even an attempt to use the AEA. For Kilmar, it was because he was not given a chance to contest any reversal of his protected status (in fact, none was even attempted). The arguments are, in his case: “Govt—he’s a member of Ms-13 and that’s terrorist and we can use that.” Kilmar—I am not, I’m not dangerous, and the gang that threatened me is not totally eradicated. (And possibly—by now MS-13 will be after me, too, if they have taken over the other gang’s territory).
The govt may be deciding to bring Kilmar home—of course they can do it, trump is a dealmaker, right?—because HIS case also brings up the idea of imprisoning someone without a US conviction. So far there hasn’t been much stress on this. But if the govt keeps being stubborn it may well come up, and THAT would skewer using CECOT for much of anything. Kilmar could still be deported if his protected status is reversed, but NOT sent to jail. At which point he could get on a plane, right there at the airport, to wherever would take it. A lot of countries would likely want to do an “up yours” and grant him asylum. China maybe?
But this is not deportation. This is rendition.
without a court order, yes. If they DO go through Article 8 courts, it’s deportation. We don’t know who on plane 3 was in that category. But it turns out to be rendition if to a prison with no conviction.
Apparently Rwanda is taking deportees and NOT putting them in prison. They’re getting funds to house them. Time shall tell whether the house has locks.
I thought that when you're deported, you are returned to your home country and not sent to somewhere where you have no connections.